Sustainability??

[bitingmidge]

The world's full of fruit loops.

http://www.afrigadget.com/2008/02/06...-bike-project/

I have no problems with people using old bicycle parts, nor with building their frames out of bamboo, but to kid themselves that this is a sustainable way of doing stuff??

Surely if the frames had been built properly in the first place, that would have been more sustainable? Millions of bikes get thrown away in the first world every year.... why do these poor buggers need to build "sustainable" ones?


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[journeyman Mick]

Fruit loops? Wankers is more like it! I wonder how much money the "project team" has sucked up? They'd be better off setting up collection points for unwanted/dumped/broken bicycles and shipping them off to Africa for them to get recycled there, but I guess that appears more patronising than their self indulgent tinkering.

Mick

[Bleedin Thumb]

Surely if the frames had been built properly in the first place, that would have been more sustainable? Millions of bikes get thrown away in the first world every year.... why do these poor buggers need to build "sustainable" ones?


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I think the point is that bamboo is a sustainable resource whilst titanium alloy, carbon fiber, aluminium or what ever other metal the frame is constructed from now is not.

Surely if millions of bikes are thrown away every year - wouldn't it be better that they were constructed from a renewable material that could be composted or recycled without adding to the waste stream?

Its easy to ridicule the project but at least they are working on a solution to a big problem.

I agree that it sounds friggin stupid though. Besides bamboo has those fine itchy spikes on it, so you wouldn't want to get a double from someone.

[bitingmidge]

Surely if millions of bikes are thrown away every year - wouldn't it be better that they were constructed from a renewable material that could be composted or recycled without adding to the waste stream?

No, it would be better if they were built with a poofteenth more metal, and not thrown away. If every throwaway bike went to these blokes, bent and twisted frames and cracks and all, they'd fix it it the blinking of an eye, and wouldn't have a need for "sustainable" frames.

There's nothing unsustainable about having a bike frame that lasts for a hundred years or more.

It's the message that's screwed. Helping a third world bloke to a bamboo bike is paternalistic nonsense.

Not that I have a strong point of view or anything.

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[Bleedin Thumb]

Hey BM I notice your comments are even reported on that web page that you linked to -now the whole world knows where you stand on this issue.

Lucky Zed wasn't the first to open his mouth, we would end up creating a diplomatic incident!

[journeyman Mick]

Hmm, I hope my comments don't create a diplomatic incident, of course knowing me it would be an undiplomatic incident.

Mick (the couth)

[Col]

Hmm, I hope my comments don't create a diplomatic incident, of course knowing me it would be an undiplomatic incident.

Mick (the couth)

Sure you don't mean: Mick (the count)?

[Bleedin Thumb]

Or : Mick (the cunt)?

[bitingmidge]

Hey BM I notice your comments are even reported on that web page that you linked to -now the whole world knows where you stand on this issue.

Looks like terrorists have blown up their site, or they've managed to block only me in case I say something lucid!

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[journeyman Mick]

Nope, the site's still there. They must have just blocked you (oddly enough they haven't blocked me)

Mick

[Col]

(oddly enough they haven't blocked me)

That must be because they know you're couth (or did you mean Keith?)